Jesus Land

This map is pretty telling. But is this good? It seems as if now White, Evangelical Christians are seen more as the enemy, as the ones to whom the rest of the country ‘lost the election to.’

Is this a good or a bad thing for the Church? I wonder if there will be more people in church this Nov-Dec. Look out! Is it real? Another 9/11 bump? And what do we do? Ride the hype? Some churches certainly will.

What would I do? Call people to a genuine, authentic relationship with Jesus. I would be a great host, acknowledge people that may be ‘seeking’, but call their bluff as well. How many are there to be a part of the ‘winnning team’ but their faith is dead.

How many churches will chalk up growing numbers but do nothing with regards to the soul. Maybe, nothing will change, but I doubt it.

Link: c u l t u r e k i t c h e n.

A Spiritual Revival

It just seems that this election is bringing out not ‘the revival’ that perhaps is coming but spiritual/moral talk. I am fascinated and elated at the talk about morality, about this being a vote for the sacred not the secular. To hear the media talk about spiritual themes and moral issues is pretty incredible.

Gay marriage, stem cell, these are some of the moral values they’re talking about. 22% of the people thought this was the major issue in this election. More than any other issue.

Not sure what it all means. But it’s there.

A Spiritual Revival

It just seems that this election is bringing out not ‘the revival’ that perhaps is coming but spiritual/moral talk. I am fascinated and elated at the talk about morality, about this being a vote for the sacred not the secular. To hear the media talk about spiritual themes and moral issues is pretty incredible.

Gay marriage, stem cell, these are some of the moral values they’re talking about. 22% of the people thought this was the major issue in this election. More than any other issue.

Not sure what it all means. But it’s there.

Doing What I Do

I am a pastor. I am a worship leader. I am, who cares what I am. What matters is that I am seeking God, listening to Him. Today, we talked about how to be more real as pastors. Perhaps we don’t do Resonate vision in 2005 right off the bat. Instead, we are talking about the need to unravel our young adult’s modernity.

Also, we are concluding, finally, that Resonate (our young adult service) is not postmodern. Dah, some sould say! In other words, it’s not, as McLaren talks about, World=Church=Self. But instead, it’s the modern model, Self=Church=World.

For the most part, our young people compartmentalize their faith. Church is church, friendships with the unchurched is a different thing. We are realizing that many of our young adults, young marrieds are pretty content in the modern system. They don’t necessarily want to be honest, or have their pastors share their stuff. They want us to be strong, good, visionary leaders that create good experiences for them and their children some day.

And college students, for the most part, can also fall into consumerism. Of course, this is what our modern churches, including us, have created, a consumer mentality. Better services, better messages, better music, better children’s programs. And my duty? Show up, give, serve if I really have to.

So we conclude that the Spirit has to do a work, we as pastors have to get honest about our own journey and hunger for honesty. People have to choose if they want this kind of faith, to become this new kind of Christian.

Perhaps, our church will have two systems running simultaneously for a while – modern and whatever we do.

I’m not sure our church wants to/can/should go towards more emergent thinking. Resonate could. There are still many modern hands around the Resonate throat. That sounds harsh, but there’s truth there. Our leaders just have to be concerened with the modern stuff – numbers, reaching out, a good service, good worship leading, good teaching, relevant series and the like.

That’s important. I like that too, the modern in me. Remember, I’m both. I’m transitional, not native.

But it’s not working for everyone. And most of all it’s not reaching unchurched people, and worse, it’s not calling people out of their consumerist lives.

Tomorrow morning, we meet again, to talk some more.

Doing What I Do

I am a pastor. I am a worship leader. I am, who cares what I am. What matters is that I am seeking God, listening to Him. Today, we talked about how to be more real as pastors. Perhaps we don’t do Resonate vision in 2005 right off the bat. Instead, we are talking about the need to unravel our young adult’s modernity.

Also, we are concluding, finally, that Resonate (our young adult service) is not postmodern. Dah, some sould say! In other words, it’s not, as McLaren talks about, World=Church=Self. But instead, it’s the modern model, Self=Church=World.

For the most part, our young people compartmentalize their faith. Church is church, friendships with the unchurched is a different thing. We are realizing that many of our young adults, young marrieds are pretty content in the modern system. They don’t necessarily want to be honest, or have their pastors share their stuff. They want us to be strong, good, visionary leaders that create good experiences for them and their children some day.

And college students, for the most part, can also fall into consumerism. Of course, this is what our modern churches, including us, have created, a consumer mentality. Better services, better messages, better music, better children’s programs. And my duty? Show up, give, serve if I really have to.

So we conclude that the Spirit has to do a work, we as pastors have to get honest about our own journey and hunger for honesty. People have to choose if they want this kind of faith, to become this new kind of Christian.

Perhaps, our church will have two systems running simultaneously for a while – modern and whatever we do.

I’m not sure our church wants to/can/should go towards more emergent thinking. Resonate could. There are still many modern hands around the Resonate throat. That sounds harsh, but there’s truth there. Our leaders just have to be concerened with the modern stuff – numbers, reaching out, a good service, good worship leading, good teaching, relevant series and the like.

That’s important. I like that too, the modern in me. Remember, I’m both. I’m transitional, not native.

But it’s not working for everyone. And most of all it’s not reaching unchurched people, and worse, it’s not calling people out of their consumerist lives.

Tomorrow morning, we meet again, to talk some more.

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